Marvin Shilmer

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  Questions for those who believe in the Watchtower Blood Policy

  by Lee Elder in

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  2. medical

  new article on ajwrb:.

  http://ajwrb.org/medicine/questions-for-those-who-believe-in-the-watcthower-blood-policy.

  lee.

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  Marvin Shilmer

  What about GOD'S 'Blood policy'?

  From Noah to the Apostles?

  Deny the meaning of the word "Abstain"?

  God's "Blood policy" expressed to Noah and, according to Watchtower, reiterated in the Apostolic Decree was to abstain from EATING blood of animals slaughtered to eat them as food.

  Otherwise Noah was free to do whatever he wanted with blood of animals he killed for food whenever he wanted to do it.

  Oh, and one other important thing: Nowhere was Noah required to abstain from eating blood of animals that died of themselves (that is: deceased animal carcasses found dead of causes CREATED BY GOD, like old age).

  And, finally, one more thing: The practice of medicinal transplantation of blood was practiced by ancient peoples and Noah was not prohibited from this use of blood. (See: http://marvinshilmer.blogspot.com/2010/01/medicinal-use-of-blood.html

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  Transfusing blood is NOT eating blood

  by Rufus T. Firefly in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  watchtowers official view:.

  you also ask why one can be disfellowshipped for taking a blood transfusion but not for taking blood fractions.

  while both may affect the life of an individual, the expression "life-sustaining" in connection with blood transfusions is synonymous with the idea of taking in food for nourishment.

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  Biological cellular tissue is eventually catabolized by the body but this is a destructive metabolism rather than a constructive metabolism. (I.e., catabolism is not nutrition) Because biological cellular structures influence new (replacement) cellular growth of tissue then anti-rejection therapy is necessary to different extents based on transplanted tissue, when a transplant occurred and the expected life of transplanted tissue.
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  Checkmate WT!

  by ILoveTTATT in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  as a lot of you know, i am making a catalog of all the articles and quotes that the wt used to make the creation book.

  i want to see all the quotes for myself, if possible.. i went to my university today, and i got some more books.. checkmate, wt!

  i can now check every single quote, almost without regard to how obscure or rare the book is!.

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  Marvin Shilmer

  You might be retracing steps taken by another researcher. Take a look:

  http://corior.blogspot.com/2006/02/part-1-disagreements-about-evolution.html
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  Transfusing blood is NOT eating blood

  by Rufus T. Firefly in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  watchtowers official view:.

  you also ask why one can be disfellowshipped for taking a blood transfusion but not for taking blood fractions.

  while both may affect the life of an individual, the expression "life-sustaining" in connection with blood transfusions is synonymous with the idea of taking in food for nourishment.

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  To this very day Watchtower persists in teaching its utter nonsense that transfusing blood is eating blood. Take a look at what Watchtower says in its 2014 convention release: http://marvinshilmer.blogspot.com/2014/07/transfusion-eating-is-still-canard.html

  Ironically, the very fraction ("serum") Watchtower spoke of in its response to the R. Jensen letters is demonstrated to be a blood fraction which transfusion of actually does offer parenteral nutrition. But Watchtower never lets whopping details like this stand it the way of what it wants to tell folks. See: http://marvinshilmer.blogspot.com/2012/10/watchtowers-expert-on-blood-transfusion.html

  Watchtower assertion about Denys is wholly wrong. Denys never said what Watchtower alleges he said. See: http://marvinshilmer.blogspot.com/2013/02/academic-deception-or-incompetence.html
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  WHEN WAS THE VERY LAST ARTICLE ON BLOOD IN EITHER THE WATCHTOWER OR THE AWAKE?

  by steve2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  there's been a buzz on this forum - on and off but currently on - that there has not been an article in any watchtower publication on the blood ban for a while - which feeds speculation that the organization is distancing itself from this doctrinal absurdity.

  does that mean there's been nothing mentioned about the blood doctrine for months or years?

  specifically, when did the watchtower last mention the blood ban?

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  http://marvinshilmer.blogspot.com/2011/02/what-happened-at-watchtower-in-2001.html
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  Honest survey question on effectiveness of 'apostacy'

  by Simon in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it seems like lots of people have big dreams of 'destroying the watchtower'.

  it's usually linked to a story of how they were wronged and want some revenge.

  do these 'in your face' attempts to convince people that the truth isn't the truth really have an effect?.

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  "What is most effective is having information available and reasoned arguments and evidence about the WTS and their beliefs and practices, things to show the person that they are not alone, that it isn't just "them" or their congregation or isolated incidents."

  I agree 100%.

  Marvin Shilmer
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  So, I met someone interesting...

  by TD in

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  from the original 1960's star trek:.

  irene kelly.. i didn't recognize her at first, but something was familiar.

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  Tell us about it.

  Marvin
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  A new start? Watchtower renaming at HQ Columbia Heights

  by Gorbatchov in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  friends,.

  who was in any doubt that our jw believe is a marketing model, see this pictures of the still existing hq of jw at columbia heights.. earlier comments on jwn that something is going to change in the organisation, these comments are true.. in a few years we will not talk about the watchtower society, we wil talk about jw.org.

  i think the current leadership will make a transfer to a new start.

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  I guess the likes of "God's name is ..." or "Read about the good news of ..." cannot compete with shameless self-promotion.

  Watchtower is about Watchtower. Nothing more. Nothing less. It's a business being run like a business.

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  250,000 Jehovah's Witnesses have died refusing blood

  by nicolaou in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  80+ branch davidian cult members died in waco, texas.

  250,000+ #jehovahswitnesses have died refusing blood.

  stop this #cult!

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  Marvin Shilmer

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  Adamah,

  Readers who want to measure veracity of claims should do so based on their own firsthand consideration of those claims. I’m not interested in reaching any other kind of reader.

  What your cryptic remarks about someone being caught in a lie or stretching the truth is supposed to mean is only known to you.

  I advise readers to consult whatever source information is cited.

  Oh, and it is preposterous to think it creates impression of “having something to hide” because a person is lazy or otherwise unable to go to the library to consult source material at issue. These people don’t have a reason to think anyone is hiding anything.

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  250,000 Jehovah's Witnesses have died refusing blood

  by nicolaou in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  80+ branch davidian cult members died in waco, texas.

  250,000+ #jehovahswitnesses have died refusing blood.

  stop this #cult!

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  Marvin Shilmer

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  “Interesting, Marvin, as you seemingly are unaware of the doctrine of 'contributury copyright infringement', a tort where inducing others to infringe copyright actually exposes one to charges, as well?”

  Adamah,

  I’m unconcerned about my personal exposure on this matter, and am not attempting to induce anything illegal. I think my point was/is clear enough, and it was said to a person who’s apparently willing to flagrantly disregard property rights of a thirdparty!

  “While I may be interested in the issue enough to click on a link to read it for free, few will be willing to PAY to gain access to material that's locked behind a pay-wall.”

  So what?

  “And that's part of the practical problem with relying on Beliaev's study for anything, really: if it cannot be easily accessed by the reader to confirm by clicking on a link, the study might as well not exist, since in the minds of many laypersons, it only creates the impression of having something to hide.”

  That’s beyond preposterous!!!

  Any layperson with an ounce of get-up-and-go can typically get to a public library, which will in almost all cases have access to this information.

  Marvin Shilmer